If it hadn’t been for Len [Mace] and Ramon [Alvarez], I’m not sure I would be as active as I am. I have a great deal of difficulty saying no to those two, because what they’re asking is usually something that the kids need to see adults do. So, I’ve had to sit on my fear levels and shyness, and go do what they need to have done because of that.
Len Mace was the pastor at EMCC church; Ramon Alvarez was the director of Odyssey Youth Center.
Source: Interview with Maureen Nickerson on 13 December 2006, held at the Northwest Museum of Arts and Culture.